When you become a member of the arcane university and become arch-mage there is still one place you can't get into called the Orrery. Does anyone know how to get in there.

Are you sure you don't have to get the mod?

i thought that was reserved untill you get master of the guild?

I've become Arch-Mage, but admittedly, I didn't play on to see if I could get into the Orrery, which admittedly is why I didn't know about the acolyte thing you told me about, safehands.

im nearly there

too busy murdering and thieving at the minute though...........

should really finish before then or all the mages will hate me!

Well, the mages will hate you when you do a mission for the Gray Fox. I don't want to say any more than that, but I will if you get to it and are looking for help on it.

Edit: 333 posts, the same rating as the Lords Mail in Morrowind.

think ill polish off the mages guild first then

theres loads of stuff i want to do as a master mage

ive done the fighters quest line, the DB quest line, and the thieves quest line and am halfway through the mages, so im just about to blast those quests out the window

and what you do in one hasent affected any other?

id like to know cos i like to do a couple of missions at a time of each - but didnt want people to start getting pissed off with me and the missions drying up? ie having to kill a mage for the bortherhood stops the mages guild questline?

safehands, I had the same line of thought. Didn't want to risk stepping on any shoes, and wanted skills suitable for each guild, so I made a few characters. I think i've had 5 now.

none of the guilds quests affects any of the other guilds quests at all ever

know what you mean - just wanted my current charector to be an uber guilder - with all the skills of all.

havent noticed pissing anyone off yet - but havent completed them all yet (apart from arena and most og mages)

are any of your charectors masters of both or all yet?

If you play it right, true. But there is a certain quest for the thieves guild if you play it wrong, you have to make amends with the mages guild. Nothing necessarily hard, or anything, but still.

Besides, I more wanted a character that was mage orientated for the mages guild, stealth for thieves and the brotherhood, and combat for fighters and arena.

oh yeah, that one where you have to steal the mages staff, i dont think i had joined the mages at that point, which was why i didnt think the guilds affected each other
sorry

good point

im finding it hard i must say to do all the missions. its hard to be sneaky, magical and murderous all with the same charector

its mainly the thieves are struggling with but i had no lockpicks which didnt help

i think if you do mages, then thieves / fighter / dark brotherhood youll be ok - cos it seems that only the mages get offended by the cross questlines

and i dont fancy collecting all that crap to amends with the mages - bit of a dull mission even if its not to taxing